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- Simple Questions D Dowling
- Resurrection and Other Simple Questions Anon
- Thanks – But Please Tell Me More D Dowling
- Resurrection and True Religion Anon
Dean R. Dowling
(Investigator 112, 2007 January)
1 Where is the evidence for life after death?
2 Where is the evidence for the existence of a soul?
3 When one dies is one resurrected 2 or 3 days after death? I don't want to be at age 72 resurrected 2 or 3 days later with my crook back, I.B.S., high B. P. and Alzheimer's.
4 Is all religious belief just wishful thinking?
5 According to Intelligent Design, God does exist as the First Cause of everything. But is he a bastard of the First Order because of all the injustice and suffering in this world?
(Investigator 112, 2007
QUESTIONS 1 and 2 – RESURRECTION
To minimize theology and answer Dowling in accord with experience and science I'll make "soul" synonymous with mind. Therefore anyone who experiences having a mind also has a soul.
Now recall the biblical
prediction that if
humans were united then everything they imagine will become possible in
If humans can potentially resurrect the dead by using the physics and chemistry of our four dimensions of space and time, then God working in five, six or more dimensions (depending on which Cosmology is correct) could easily resurrect all the dead – 50, 60 or 70 billion of them.
I'll say that again: If human science can potentially resurrect the dead then the "omnipotent" Creator of everything could do immeasurably better. Therefore the Bible is plausible in predicting the resurrection of the dead.
Consider, first, the body:
Genetics may within decades achieve the technology where if just one living cell survives, dead people could have their entire body recreated by cloning. Even if no cell survives but there's a full record of its chemical structure including all the base-pairs of its DNA then the body could be reconstituted with future gene technology. The result would be a body without a mind, or perhaps a body with an empty mind.
Now consider the mind:
Simple mind-reading using brain scanning technology is already a fact. See New Scientist, January 7, 1995, 30-34; July 31, 2004, 31-41; September 21, 2003, p. 38; April 30, 2005 p. 11; May 6, 2006 p. 32
The 2005 reference says:
Brain scanning technologies are recent developments and already some scientists are thinking of loading mental images onto computer screens!
We can imagine future brain-scanning technology that copies everything in the mind and stores it on a computer hard drive thus maintaining a replica of the mind in unconscious form.
A dead person would then be reconstituted by creating a new body via genetics and reintegrating the mind stored on the hard-drive with the nervous system.
Consider also teleportation (while remembering that virtually everything is possible):
a laser beam:
Other scientists are
If the above phenomena are humanly achievable in four dimensions, and are being worked on in preliminary ways, then obviously "omnipotence" operating in [up to] 11 dimensions could do infinitely better!
Mr Dowling, get ready for
eternity and for:
QUESTION 3 – RESURRECTION-BODY
Christ was resurrected "the third day" – died on Friday and raised on Sunday morning.
That's what most New Testament passages on Christ's resurrection say.
One passage (Matthew 12:40) says "three days and three nights". This passage probably considers Jesus as dead in principle on the night of his trial, Thursday night, because he was prejudged and his dying started when the physical mistreatment began.
For people other than Jesus the resurrection to eternal life is in the future – as the Bible puts it "on the last day". (John 6:40, 44, 54)
Mr Dowling asks whether he'll be resurrected with his crook back and Alzheimer's.
Those resurrected to
eternity will receive
a new superior body. (1 Corinthians 15:35-55) The bodies of people
to be judged and punished is not described. Therefore use common sense
– for example they'll need to be sound enough in body so that their
can function and appreciate what's happening.
QUESTION 4 – WISHFUL THINKING
Yes, much religious belief is false, or in Dowling's words "wishful thinking". The Bible itself teaches that religious idolatry is worthless and the entire human race is deceived.
It also teaches that human
religious evil will finally lead to the "end of the world" by fire from
"heaven" i.e. from the sky. (2 Peter 3:1-13; 2:6; Genesis 19:24-28) The
possibility of the world perishing by fire became up-to-date science
Consider a landlord who invites people to live in his house, doesn't even charge rent, but requires obedience to rules that will preserve the health and lives of the tenants. Perhaps rules like "Don't jump off the roof", "Don't stick wires into power sockets", "Don't use lies to persuade other tenants into harmful actions."
Suppose the tenants decide they know better rules and therefore disobey the landlord's rules. Suppose the landlord thinks it inconsistent to enforce his benevolence by power and terror, and also does not wish to throw the tenants out. Therefore he lets the tenants try out their own rules and experience the consequences.
Who would be to blame for the suffering that results?
Surely not the generous
the unappreciative and rebellious "bastards" who don't appreciate free
accommodation and despise rules established for their benefit! (See
Tsunamis and Evil, #104)
For humans to let one
thing represent something
else is an everyday occurrence. There are figures of speech for this
names such as "Metaphor", "Simile", "Symbol" and "Hypocatastasis". A
is when one word stands for another. Biblical metaphors number hundreds
Every church has errors and that's just something to put up with. There are also errors in every science and again we just have to put up with it until they're corrected. This is no reason for Dowling to disobey Jesus' command to "Do this [i.e. commemorate Jesus' death with "cracker" and "burgundy"] in remembrance of me".
If we ridicule a ceremony
one thing (e.g. wine) represents something else (e.g. blood), then why
not ridicule everything where one thing stands for or symbolises
else including television images, wedding rings, and even the chemical
events in the brain that correspond to the external world?
Mr Dowling if you have
why not go to church and inquire there? Perhaps they'll tackle your
questions, not just the "simple" ones.
Chapman, C. R. & Morrison, D. Cosmic Impacts Cosmic Catastrophes, Mercury 1990 January/February, pp 21, 22, 25
Siegfried, T. Body double 2005 New Scientist, June 11, pp 30-33
Weisser, R. The Weekend Australian October 29-30, 2006, A Vision For The Nation's Future, Part 7 Technology
THANKS – BUT PLEASE TELL ME MORE
(Investigator 113, 2006
I wish to thank Anonymous for telling me that God is the Great Cloner using the latest DNA technology to resurrect bodies. (No. 112, p. 38)
What if bodies are completely destroyed, or has He the DNA file on everyone who has ever lived?
Where do the 70 billion rejuvenated bodies live now? In Heaven? But where is Heaven? Or will future science discover where Heaven is?
Would Anonymous also please tell me which religion is the True One?
RESURRECTION and TRUE RELIGION
(Investigator 114, 2007 May)
I had cited (in #112) various methods science is already researching, including cloning, whereby dead people might be reconstituted. The argument was that if humans could resurrect the dead then for God – if He exists and has the powers attributed to Him – it would be easy!
The information necessary to resurrect someone includes his "DNA file". Perhaps future human technology might be able to retrieve this for everyone. But if not, there's the memory of God. The DNA file (3 billion base pairs) of everyone who ever lived (c.60 billion people) comes to 1.8 x 1020 base pairs. This is less than the number of stars in the Universe (estimated at 1022 ) and the Bible says God has a name for every star! (Isaiah 40:26)
Dowling also asks, "Which
religion is the
true one?" Here it is: